So this “don’t know” mind is very important. Keep this “don’t know” mind and listen to me, OK?

When you are thinking, your mind and my mind are different. When you cut off all thinking, then your mind and my mind are the same. If you keep “don’t know” mind one hundred percent – don’t know – at that time, your “don’t know” mind, my “don’t know” mind, everybody’s “don’t know” mind are the same. “Don’t know” mind has already stopped thinking. Stopped thinking means no thinking. No thinking means empty mind. Empty mind means before thinking. Your before thinking is your substance. My before thinking is my substance (hits his chest). This stick’s substance, universal substance, everything’s substance, is the same substance.

So, when you keep “don’t know” mind one hundred percent – don’t know – at that time you are the universe, the universe is you. You and everything have become one. That is, as we say, primary point. So, “don’t know” is not don’t know, “don’t know” is primary point. Primary point’s name is “don’t know.” Some people say primary point’s name is mind, or Buddha, or God, or nature, or substance, or absolute, or energy, or holy, or consciousness, or everything. But true primary point has no name, no form, no speech, no word, because it is before thinking. Only when you keep a “don’t know” mind one hundred percent – don’t know – at that time you and everything have already become one. So I ask you, when you keep “don’t know,” at that time, are this stick and you the same or different?

Zen Master Seung Sahn